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be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,000 people in the room all love you, the energy of the crowd carries you on its shoulders, almost what you say doesn't matter long as long as you don't screw up, on a debate, there is
be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation...
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president obama was not listening to that. what happened? >> well, you know what? i think ed schultz made a lot of good points but you look at his exchange with the obama campaign manager. he said everybody knows about the 47%. i think the biggest problem for the obama campaign last night was they had a presumption that everybody knows the facts so they don't have to relitigate the facts in a debate. the problem is you have to come into every debate as if nobody knows anything because what mitt romney was able to do was to present a completely different person and a much more aggressive person. and as ed said, ask for the job. so i think the next time what the president needs to do is to litigate that debate as if nobody knows the facts about 47%, bain capital, all the indictable things about mitt romney. he did not do that last night. >> those who watch the political observationists say and know republicans are doing the happy dance today. this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out
president obama was not listening to that. what happened? >> well, you know what? i think ed schultz made a lot of good points but you look at his exchange with the obama campaign manager. he said everybody knows about the 47%. i think the biggest problem for the obama campaign last night was they had a presumption that everybody knows the facts so they don't have to relitigate the facts in a debate. the problem is you have to come into every debate as if nobody knows anything because...
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but does the media have any more love for president obama? listen to this. >> a new survey of likely voters from veteran -- i thought we had a sound bite. a new survey of likely voters from veteran pollster john mclaughlin shows the media favors obama over romney 43 to 15. let me just repeat that. 1,000 likely voters, 43 to 15. that's what people think they favor obama over romney. so is the mainstream media bias going to stand in the way of a romney surgeon the heels of his stellar debate win? let me go to john mclaughlin. i thought we had some tape of you saying that someplace. here your poll says they're all biassed. what does that mean? i mean, people follow this thing. how can't media stand in the way of it? >> that poll that we did for the american conservative union which you can check on conservative.org will actually show that 43 to 15 they're saying they're biassed and trying to help re-elect him verse versus 15% think they're trying to help romney. romney helped himself last night where you think 130 million people voted in 2008. i
but does the media have any more love for president obama? listen to this. >> a new survey of likely voters from veteran -- i thought we had a sound bite. a new survey of likely voters from veteran pollster john mclaughlin shows the media favors obama over romney 43 to 15. let me just repeat that. 1,000 likely voters, 43 to 15. that's what people think they favor obama over romney. so is the mainstream media bias going to stand in the way of a romney surgeon the heels of his stellar...
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steve, what do you think happened to obama? >> i think he prepared and showed up for a news conference, not a debate. he answered the questions -- >> but there weren't any questions. lehrer didn't see it as his role -- >> we can talk about lehrer separately. i think what they were trying to accomplish is their view was the mitt romney campaign wasn't going very well, mitt romney wasn't doing a particularly good job and they would play rope-a-dope and sort of run out the clock on the campaign. >> why didn't he come -- let's start with something that's not technical or tricky. ushgly when you know you're going to have an hour and a half before the american people, i can't imagine that, and you say you get 45 minutes of that hour and a half, you get about half the time, he got a little more than half, you have something to say. he didn't talk about the auto industry, he didn't talk about lily ledbetter, he didn't talk about equal pay, didn't talk about the things he cared about. >> and he didn't talk about all the things the campa
steve, what do you think happened to obama? >> i think he prepared and showed up for a news conference, not a debate. he answered the questions -- >> but there weren't any questions. lehrer didn't see it as his role -- >> we can talk about lehrer separately. i think what they were trying to accomplish is their view was the mitt romney campaign wasn't going very well, mitt romney wasn't doing a particularly good job and they would play rope-a-dope and sort of run out the clock...
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if romney won the instant reactions from last night's debates, it's more than possible that the obama camp can win the next 24 hours. also tomorrow the labor department releases its monthly jobs report potentially, giving team obama a chance to change the narrative. let me bring in political editor -- senior political edit editor, mark murray. patrick gaspar was here a moment ago. he had the same strategy you pointed out earlier this morning. they're looking at the long picture or big picture here, and not focusing too much on the one debate. >> that's right. they tried to turn the message. they had an aggressive conference call today. you saw a fiery president obama campaigning in denver trying to point out what they said were misstatements that mitt romney made at the debate last night. so that's what they are actually trying to do. i will say as we wrote in first read, there is that kind of 24-hour period on how the campaigns can try to shake things. just seeing the body language, seeing a lot of the commentary, the obama campaign is still struggling. diana on andrea mitchell's pro
if romney won the instant reactions from last night's debates, it's more than possible that the obama camp can win the next 24 hours. also tomorrow the labor department releases its monthly jobs report potentially, giving team obama a chance to change the narrative. let me bring in political editor -- senior political edit editor, mark murray. patrick gaspar was here a moment ago. he had the same strategy you pointed out earlier this morning. they're looking at the long picture or big picture...
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this. >> obama care is on my list. i use that name with -- >> one note from the bach about the 2008 campaign about debates. mr. pluff put it in his book published tonight, mr. obama was not a strong debater and derided the whole exercise of boiling down complex answers to 20 or 30-second sound bytes his staff was nervous when he faced mrs. clinton one of the most formidable figures in the party. 24 could be an unmitigated disaster, said mr. axelrod but in tend, mrs. obama did win. the minimalist verdict, that could have been a lot worse. that was the view of obama as a debater from the men who have stuck with him for this current campaign are thinks first campaign when he was trying to win the nomination. certainly we're hearing the obama said trying to spin this as maybe not as bad as everybody thinks it was from the democratic side but it seems likes everybody thinks it was pretty bad from the democratic side. as the night goes on in terms of your overall big-picture response, are your feelings of this being mitigate
this. >> obama care is on my list. i use that name with -- >> one note from the bach about the 2008 campaign about debates. mr. pluff put it in his book published tonight, mr. obama was not a strong debater and derided the whole exercise of boiling down complex answers to 20 or 30-second sound bytes his staff was nervous when he faced mrs. clinton one of the most formidable figures in the party. 24 could be an unmitigated disaster, said mr. axelrod but in tend, mrs. obama did win....
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. >> it is two al gores. >> also greg, you couldn't remember what year obama gave his accentance speech? >> you know, sometimes -- ya. >> it was either 2008 or 2012, right? >> yes. >> and it wasn't 2012. >> all right. >> as diane was trying to explain, you can't say obama's problem was the altitude. but romney didn't have the same problem, and then say oh it takes more than a day or two to acclimate. romney didn't get there until monday night. >> so the debate was wednesday so he had more than a day. >> you said it takes more than a day or two. >> no, i said more than the day. yes, i did. go to the tape. >> see. >> wait, here is the tape. one day and one day only. guess i won. >> also bill, you said he is the president and he can't get to denver earl early. get to denver early. on tuesday he visited the hoover dam. >> that's what presidents do. >> by the way, -- well never mind. >> the romney shirt in the school. tom, why did you start singing "friday." >> rebecca black, she wore the shirt to school and i like her video. >> okay, i cannot argue with you, sir. there is something wrong wi
. >> it is two al gores. >> also greg, you couldn't remember what year obama gave his accentance speech? >> you know, sometimes -- ya. >> it was either 2008 or 2012, right? >> yes. >> and it wasn't 2012. >> all right. >> as diane was trying to explain, you can't say obama's problem was the altitude. but romney didn't have the same problem, and then say oh it takes more than a day or two to acclimate. romney didn't get there until monday night....
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care will real reforms. >> let's get to another presidential election. this one in south america and election day is today. that man has been in power for 13 years now. there's no limit to the number of terms a president can serve there. chavez, himself, made that rule. analyst say if anyone can unseat him, it's the man facing him today. it's after 9:00 p.m. polls were scheduled to close hours ago but they're still open. what's going on? >> reporter: a few are still open. if you are in any polling station anywhere in this country today you would know the lineups were huge, and it could be approaching 80%. for that reason, the electoral commission stayed true to word and continued to have the polls open. we are not sure if it will make a difference, though. we are getting word that they reached 80 to 95% of the votes are counted. >> what has energized voters so much, for people to wait in really long lines? >> reporter: traditionally venezuela has high turnouts, but beyond that, this is one of the closest and really contested elections in venezuelan histo
care will real reforms. >> let's get to another presidential election. this one in south america and election day is today. that man has been in power for 13 years now. there's no limit to the number of terms a president can serve there. chavez, himself, made that rule. analyst say if anyone can unseat him, it's the man facing him today. it's after 9:00 p.m. polls were scheduled to close hours ago but they're still open. what's going on? >> reporter: a few are still open. if you are...
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obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that manifests in a way that the debate format was just dismantled. the format and i think the moderator, with all due respect to mr. lehrer dismantled. this is one of those debates, you could predict the score more by time of possession in terms of who was speaking more. then you could by any oth
obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was...
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presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are th
presidential race. let's check the "hardball" scoreboard. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll, president obama has a two-point lead holding there, 49%/47%. same score in the new politico poll. obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him...
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. >>> four years ago, there was no incumbent in the presidential debates. >> if you want to run against president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the na
. >>> four years ago, there was no incumbent in the presidential debates. >> if you want to run against president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive...
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let's get to another presidential election. this one in south america. and election day is today. venezuela, where that man you're about to see, president hugo chavez has been in power for 13 years now. that's chavez voting today, trying for another term. there is no limit to the number of terms a president can serve there. chavez himself made that rule. but analysts say if anyone can unseat this president, it's the man facing him today. a 40-year-old governor. let's get to caracas right now. paula, it's after 9:00 p.m. polls were scheduled to close hours ago. but they're still open. what's going on? >> reporter: a few are still open. if you were in any polling station, you know the lineups were huge. the turnout could be approaching 80%. the electoral commission stayed true to word and allowed the polls to stay open. we're getting word that perhaps they reached critical mass. that means 80% to 90% of the votes have been counted. we expect results in the next hour or so, don. >> what has energized voters so much to stay at poll
let's get to another presidential election. this one in south america. and election day is today. venezuela, where that man you're about to see, president hugo chavez has been in power for 13 years now. that's chavez voting today, trying for another term. there is no limit to the number of terms a president can serve there. chavez himself made that rule. but analysts say if anyone can unseat this president, it's the man facing him today. a 40-year-old governor. let's get to caracas right now....
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>> the loser is the obama debate prep team. they did an awful job. i think that they told the president to go in there and play defense and act presidential and i think that that worked in his disadvantage. >> okay. susan, how about you? >> governor romney. he did a great job this week at the debate. he's certainly the winner. and in spite of morris' statement, it's the person that actually does the debate, and that's president obama, and he's the loser of the week. >> okay. >> all right, you guys. as i like to say, you're all three winners with me. >> i love susan. i'm on record, i love susan! >> morris, we get along. we're good friends. >> guys, thanks so much. that's a wrap-up of "weekends with alex witt." up next, milissa rehberger continuing our coverage right after the break. i'm alex witt. have a great dpap that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. why they have a raise yo
>> the loser is the obama debate prep team. they did an awful job. i think that they told the president to go in there and play defense and act presidential and i think that that worked in his disadvantage. >> okay. susan, how about you? >> governor romney. he did a great job this week at the debate. he's certainly the winner. and in spite of morris' statement, it's the person that actually does the debate, and that's president obama, and he's the loser of the week. >>...
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and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking oun our enemies no malter where they nest. >> please, god, just for a minute, shrumy, and you too, michael, be independent minded and answer this question. is that the right way to go in this crucial last month to be focusing on big bird? >> no, it's not. no, it's not, number one. number two, they're not broadcasting that ad in the battleground states at any heavy level. number three, they shouldn't. number four, we should be talking about who is going to save
and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you...
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for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary present. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is lizz winstead, creator of "the daily show" and author of "lizz free or die," and nia malika henderson. what did you think of what you saw so far, ladies? is this going to educate america or de-educate us? what's all this satire going to do
for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some...
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policy regardless of who wins the presidential elections, whether it's romney or obama? >> let me just make two points. one point is about importance of issues. i happen to think that foreign policy isn't much of an issue in our elections anyway, and even though it has, you know, recent events have increased it and today romney's giving a speech, by and large that's not likely this late in the day unless there's a war or something on that scale to have much of an impact. and i think what we haven't talked about is how people rank these issues. we do have a couple of questions in the poll about the ranking of the issue, relations with the muslim world and also ranking the arab/israeli issue in the priorities. people do rank it in the top five, but in an open question not in terms of comparison to other issues if you put it in there, and republicans, oddly enough, tend to rank it a little bit higher than democrats. and maybe that's one thing that romney is doing. now, if you -- what would happen if there is an election? obviously, let's say we'll make a difference between
policy regardless of who wins the presidential elections, whether it's romney or obama? >> let me just make two points. one point is about importance of issues. i happen to think that foreign policy isn't much of an issue in our elections anyway, and even though it has, you know, recent events have increased it and today romney's giving a speech, by and large that's not likely this late in the day unless there's a war or something on that scale to have much of an impact. and i think what...
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mayor, what needs to be done right now to right this ship, to get obama back on a winning course? >> well, the president is on a winning course and as you laid out earlier, chris, with all the things that mitt romney either lied about or denied about, what we call that in philadelphia is just lying, denying, and alibiing. and if that's what you're going to spend your time doing and focus on style, then you'll have a pretty decent night. president obama is focused on substance. let me give you three quick numbers here, chris, which i think ultimately is what this election is all about. 31 straight months of job growth here in the united states of america. 5.1 million jobs created in the private sector. and unemployment at 7.8%, the lowest it's been since the president took the oath of office in january of 2009. things are moving in the right direction. this campaign is moving forward. we've got 30 days to go, and we're focused on voter registration, getting our voters more educated, and then out to vote, and when you talk about all those polls, one poll up, one poll down, what i'm
mayor, what needs to be done right now to right this ship, to get obama back on a winning course? >> well, the president is on a winning course and as you laid out earlier, chris, with all the things that mitt romney either lied about or denied about, what we call that in philadelphia is just lying, denying, and alibiing. and if that's what you're going to spend your time doing and focus on style, then you'll have a pretty decent night. president obama is focused on substance. let me give...
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tonight was the first presidential debate between barack obama and romney. it was the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. weird during the debate when obama promised to balance the budget, cut taxes and be home by 10:00 for cuddling time. romney made a stop at chipotle. tonight, jimmy welcomes james bond, and musical act animal collective. that's late night with jimmy fallon on your local nbc station. it's time for entertainment news. l.a.p.d. was punked. a s.w.a.t. team was around the home. >>> at a state department ceremony, secretary of state, hillary clinton honored "the voice" coach, christina aguilera for her work to fight global hunger. >> if i could sing, christina, i would -- i would want to be on your team. but, since i can't, i'm glad you are on this team. >> finally, jersey shore cast members, the situation and pauly dean have advice for honey boo boo. they say the 7-year-old star should run with it and go for it. they also predict honey boo boo will become the new snooki because she and her family are just as crazy. we should point out, she's seve
tonight was the first presidential debate between barack obama and romney. it was the obama's 20th wedding anniversary. weird during the debate when obama promised to balance the budget, cut taxes and be home by 10:00 for cuddling time. romney made a stop at chipotle. tonight, jimmy welcomes james bond, and musical act animal collective. that's late night with jimmy fallon on your local nbc station. it's time for entertainment news. l.a.p.d. was punked. a s.w.a.t. team was around the home....
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. >>> plus, a sweet victory as first lady michelle obama and ann romney go spatula to spatula in a presidential cookie bake-off. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. >>> welcome back to "first look." i'm lynn berry. here are some of the top stories making news this morning. now, if the u.s. goes over the so-called fiscal cliff in january, it will cost almost 90% of americans more in taxes for a total of $536 billion. taxes for a typical middle-income family making $40,000 to $64,000 a year could go up by $2,000. >>> and california governor jerry brown signed a bill that would allow 500,000 young illegal immigrants who qualify for the new federal work permit program to obtain driver's licenses. >>> near hong kong, at least 36 people were killed when a boat filled with holiday partygoers collided with a ferry and sank. i
. >>> plus, a sweet victory as first lady michelle obama and ann romney go spatula to spatula in a presidential cookie bake-off. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five delicious cooking sauces you combine with fresh ingredients to make amazing home-cooked meals. >>> welcome back to...
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now just ahead of the first presidential debate, the obama caai has released this hard-hitting ad in several manufacturg and swing states. >> these appliances could have be made heamerren a, but a company called global tech maximizeprofits by paying employees next to nothing. wh saw it as a goodnvestmt even knowing that t firpromed its practice of low-wage lab mitt romney, tough on china? since >> a romney spokeswoman responded, this is another overard ad from a president s failure to stand up to chi. the statement goes on, but not once does it actually deny any of the charges against mitt she. good to have you with us tonight. i think this latest obama ad plays rit to the workers of ohio. mitt romney and bain capital other manufacturg states?t has how damagings this? >> it's been very damaging.en a explode. take auto parts.illi with china auto pts today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at th urging of a number of us, they have taken china to thworld trade organization to show china tariffs protectmerin seeing a pattern of the government finally othe side of workers, finall
now just ahead of the first presidential debate, the obama caai has released this hard-hitting ad in several manufacturg and swing states. >> these appliances could have be made heamerren a, but a company called global tech maximizeprofits by paying employees next to nothing. wh saw it as a goodnvestmt even knowing that t firpromed its practice of low-wage lab mitt romney, tough on china? since >> a romney spokeswoman responded, this is another overard ad from a president s failure...